what's been driving business all year long, we've had a slow but sluggish recovery here in the in the united states which is turning. more tail winds next year as housing gets better. seen that throughout the year, and other businesses around the world, some doing quite well. an all-time record year in russia that was an important business for us. the fourth quarter is seasonably slow in north america because after thanksgiving all the orders were placed because we're a short cycle business. >> i'm glad you mentioned russia. a lot are worried about russia saying there's no rule of law and if i get my money in there, won't get it back. are you worried about dealing with the russians? >> it's a complicated play. been there since 1989. made our first v.back then. quite successful, made it at a time when there was a lot of uncertainty and volatility in russia and a very large investment in the largest forest products company in the country. it's different. have to have the right people, for sure. >> and you have the $1 billion pipeline business. >> that's a capital project in siberia, the bigges